Spyware - General

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Sen you'v been found out! I love it! Let the feasting begin!  

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It's nice to see Gatorboy is a Star Trek Fan.  
Spock: "Captain, our computers have been infiltrated by Gator, a strange holdover from the primitive years of computer technology.  Apparently, even our ultra-advanced technology can't prevent Gator from installing itself nor can the parasite be removed.  Highly illogical."
Kirk: "OK Spock, set phasers on kill.  The only solution is to destroy the database. We may die in the process, but we must...... stop..... Gator before it...... infiltrates Starfleet."
McCoy: "Dammit, Jim, you'll kill us all."
Kirk: "So what! Gator will track our movements and sell our coordinates to....... The Klingons.  We MUST gamble with fate and eradicate Gator by any......means....... possible!"
Spock: "Only a Human could develop something as counterproductive as Gator."

I don't know why we bother to have this sort of discussions. We should focus on the spyware. It doesn't matter where the boundaries lie between spyware, adware, malware, scumware, and the rest. It's an just an academical question. We simply don't like being spied upon. It's violating our privacy, our freedom of choice. And people defending that sort of programs (yes, that's you Sensations) shouldn't be entering this sort of forums. It's like Saddam Houssein visiting George Bush and trying to convince him that his weapons of mass destruction are for peaceful purposes only.

Let's end it here.

It's nice to see Gatorboy is a Star Trek Fan.  
Spock: "Captain, our computers have been infiltrated by Gator, a strange holdover from the primitive years of computer technology.  Apparently, even our ultra-advanced technology can't prevent Gator from installing itself nor can the parasite be removed.  Highly illogical."
Kirk: "OK Spock, set phasers on kill.  The only solution is to destroy the database. We may die in the process, but we must...... stop..... Gator before it...... infiltrates Starfleet."
McCoy: "Dammit, Jim, you'll kill us all."
Kirk: "So what! Gator will track our movements and sell our coordinates to....... The Klingons.  We MUST gamble with fate and eradicate Gator by any......means....... possible!"
Spock: "Only a Human could develop something as counterproductive as Gator."

All right! TGOD Time!!

*The Imperium Superlaser Command Ship Quake III and its slave-rigged remote-control escort fleet of twenty Eclipse Super Stardestroyers, Twenty Executor SSDs, eighty Allegiance Heavy Star Destroyers, and two hundred Imperial Star Destroyers, all painted Blood Red with a Quake Sigil inscribed in Burning Fire on their dorsal and ventral surfaces, jumps out of Hyperspace in front of the puny little dust-speck of a ship. Then, the Forward Turbolasers open fire, utterly annihilating the Enterprise within half a second. Then the massive, terrifying Imperial Quake Fleet jumps back into Hyperspace*

Spyware Whores everywhere will get the Imperial Smackdown, Quake Master Style!

Pics of the ships:

Imperium

Eclipse

Executor

Allegiance

Imperial

man, there's a _MALEVOLENT_ class of starship, but u didn't bother to list it as an option?!  for shame!

yeah, these discussions are hella silly.  even if sensations were to get one of us to come out and say that spyware and adware are different, the fact'd remain that ppl only come to these boards to GET RID OF THOSE THINGS and (that because) doing so is made _extremely_ difficult.

You are incorrect. Gator corporation has created an .exe that will install without prompting you. It will prompt with a disclaimer but will not prompt the user to acknowledge the download. Gator is Spyware at it fullest, don't mislead others into believing they're not.

Ray

do you guys get these jackasses promoting horrid software on here often?

the only people ive met that "like" gator are NEW computer users.. taking advantage of the vulnerable and simple-minded.... karmas gonna burn a hole through your asses  

i hope everyone that creates spyware/adware (there IS no difference as far as im concerned!) get that crap on their personal computers, then we'll see how "useful" this shit is...

id like to know how theyre still getting away with it?? and who or what keeps them in business???? are people actually BUYING things from these spammers?

i hope everyone that creates spyware/adware (there IS no difference as far as im concerned!) get that crap on their personal computers, then we'll see how "useful" this shit is...

Actually there is a difference but unfortunately the non-spying adware is outnumbered by the spying/hijacking/popup generating crapware variety.

Ummmm....

What I find interesting is how he talks about how much people enjoy Gator, but he never explained what was so good about it.

What does Gator provide a person that's worthwhile???

Ads??
A time function that is part of Windows??
A date function that is part of Windows??

What makes Gator worth downloading??

It takes up resources, a small part of your bandwidth, and distributes information about you.  Would you let someone you just meet off the street use your computer, write down the sites you visit, and give you advise on where to shop.   I have been dealing with Gator for many years and have not found one redeeming quality.  The only thing Gator seems good for is spoon feeding me the same marketing hype that I get from television.

Heh this thing is soo funny and pathetic at the same time

I saw some more 'sensations computer consulting' on the web and here are some quotes:

About Ad-Aware
"destroys more valuable programs"
Just running this application once in the default mode totally destroyed my Gator eWallet, Morpheus, DivX, and iMesh, none of which are spyware, which is the ontly thing that this is supposed to get rid of. The application is very poor, and has no good warning that this is going to destroy GOOD programs. I can see why so many people are saying not to install and use it! I will actively add my voice to those that say not to use it, to my hundreds of clients. When they stop removing legitimate programs, I will then change my mind. NOW I have to do a bunch of reinstalling, and replacing of data, because of a mistake that AdWare caused. Sarcastically said, "Thanks, Adaware!"

Score given: Minimal on all counts


On Gator E-Wallet:
"Fantastic product!"

This is the best product on the net! It is easy to use, and it works every time. One person wrote that it "came" with Audio Galaxy, but it doesn't...it is completely separate. (Audio Galaxy mentions that it has GAIN, which isn't the same as Gator, and in all cases, the person must accept the GAIN for any GAIN application. If you miss that, you are not reading!) Gator fills out passwords and web forms really fast, and the information is on your own system and encrypted, so that it's safe, unlike other similar products. I tell everyone I know to download it! The only problem is that C/net only has the download for 3.1, and they are now using 4.0.

Score given: Maximum on all counts

Rather odd that he's so enthusiastic about it. I'm really insulting anyone's intelligence with that comment though, it was already obvious.

Another interesting site: http://sensations.freewebpage.org/

I don't know quite what to make of it.

Oh and I, in contrary to the people that are suckered into using GATOR will prefer to remain anonymous (except for my IP of course, but nothing in life is free)

About Ad-Aware
"destroys more valuable programs"
Just running this application once in the default mode totally destroyed my Gator eWallet, Morpheus, DivX, and iMesh, none of which are spyware, which is the ontly thing that this is supposed to get rid of. The application is very poor, and has no good warning that this is going to destroy GOOD programs. I can see why so many people are saying not to install and use it! I will actively add my voice to those that say not to use it, to my hundreds of clients. When they stop removing legitimate programs, I will then change my mind. NOW I have to do a bunch of reinstalling, and replacing of data, because of a mistake that AdWare caused. Sarcastically said, "Thanks, Adaware!"

Score given: Minimal on all counts

After he gets done berating everyone saying "OH!  It does ask you to install, it is so obvious what it does.. *blah* *blaH* *Blah*" about Gator.  And then he acts like Ad-aware destroyed his machine without ever prompting him if its ok to fix said item.   I mean come on what kind of computer specialist doesn't ask questions about one product and lets it run blindly while investigating very carefully another to say how great it is...  Why its the SenGatorific kind of course.

i hope everyone that creates spyware/adware (there IS no difference as far as im concerned!) get that crap on their personal computers, then we'll see how "useful" this shit is...

Actually there is a difference but unfortunately the non-spying adware is outnumbered by the spying/hijacking/popup generating crapware variety.

no difference in the sense theyre both nuissances that me and my computer could surely do without  

Some stuff I use is actually adware, like Opera, which has a small, non-intrusive adbat along the top-right.  Very minor, and Opera is a kick-ass webbrower.

To paraphrase Indiana Jones' father,
"I am a pilgrim in an unholy land..."

http://www.sensationsconsulting.com/BulletinBoard/viewtopic.php?t=2

"They can't really call it trolling when you're telling the truth."  -me

I don't care if Gator is a great program that does everything it's supposed to do and people like it. If you feel this way you've probably only dealt with people who downloaded the thing on purpose and don't mind the fact that it's nearly impossible to uninstall.
The fact is that Gator DOES install itself without permission. I don't care if you read 'X' articles or 'Y' press releases that say otherwise.
One fact *I* am familiar with is that I found this program on my OFFICE computer. Surprising, since I am not in the habit of downloading things at work for obvious reasons (although programs like Gator have recently prompted me to grab software like Ad Aware, Popup Killer and Spybot). So you can see why I am at a loss to explain how the thing got on my machine nearly a year after I started working here. It likely came from some darn internet popup, although this puzzles me because I haven't clicked on a popup ad since 1995. Either way, whatever Gator did is surely illegal or at the very least, highly questionable.

for a *legitimate* product, Gator sure is freaking hard to uninstall. I have no idea how Gator got onto my machine, I don't download anything besides music, really. I'm pretty good about reading licencing agreements, too. So whatever, I did the normal uninstall. Fine. Then when I got spybot a week ago, I ran it and I found more gator stuff. I had to run the spybot fix *five* times to finally get rid of it.