Spyware - General

Annoying for what? For the opinion? Face the fact - you are publishing biassed opinion. I looked at the link. yes this is Bad advert method used by enigma afiiliates. They are baneed from enigma aswell.

You as a spyware warrior should know how often Enigma database updates before publishing your slanders. its not so difficult to invest 29 usd and analyse the program.

By the way if you want fight, I really dont. I just want normal discussion.  

Are you able to talk normally?

So answer the question:
IS THAT NORMAL FOR YOU TO BAN OPINION DIFFERENT THAN YOURS?

Whatever.  I banned you because you are very annoying.      Your position is not normal.  You must think their sleazy adverstising tactics are ok.  You brushed that off very lightly.  Take a look at this:
http://www.netrn.net/archives2/000542.html

What do you know about the software?  Do you know what their spyware definitions are?  How many things to they target? And how often the program is updated?  

I don't think you will get any support here for your "normal" views either.  Or at anyother anti-spyware site.

Fist of All thank you for normal answer. I respect people if they respect others.
Yes you are right - SPYHUNTER is not the best product in internet, but it is not a scam aswell.

Regarding recommendations:
Can you tell me your opinion - is it normal to ban people from the site if their opinion slightly differs?
That what for example accussers of spyhunter Do. They leave on theirs sites only Bad opinions, Banning good. Is that normal? I see that as bigger SCAM than Spyhunters. What is your opinion?

Secondly. I 'd like to state that I'm not the employee of enigma. I have my own businesses. I'm just analysing the spyware market. Maybe i'll make my own remover.
After some days of analyze I saw that some sites accusing spyhunter. So I tested it and find nothing very wrong. Now I tried to ask some answers with no arrogance, just different opinion, and got Banned. Is that normal?

Bad advert tactics to say the least, its apparent you did not read the link with regards to the trouble a user had. And free, why not? Spybot Search & Destroy and AdAware are free, with more DLs and a better user rating than I can find anywhere, and I frquent many security forums. BTW, I also have the paid version of AdAWare, and Spy Sweeper, so, its not money that drives me, just good recommendations. Go and find some good recommendations by the security industry regarding SpyHunter, but don't mind if I don't hold my breath, OK?
And it sure does seem as tho your an employee or affiliate with Enigma  and\or SpyHunter.

I visited Jurgita's website and found that she is an affiiliate of SpyHunter. She has ads on her site including the false spyware warning shown here:







Other details of the advertising methods on her site are documented with screenshots on my forum here

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=3071

They sell thousands of copies per day, and only few dissatisfied customers. its imposible to to please everyone.

And it seems the few that have DLed it, don't like it much. According to C|NET anyway, close to 80% say its not a good app. See here:
http://www.download.com/3302-2144_4-10294604.html

As opposed to Spybot Search & Destroy, which is free. Exactly the opposite, 80% like it. See here:
http://www.download.com/Spybot-Search-Destroy/3000-8022-10289035.html?tag=lst-0-22

Or, even WinPatrol, which, is also free. 855 percent like it. Read here:
http://www.download.com/WinPatrol/3000-8022-10289770.html

And it seems AdAWare does not have a rating, but judging by all the accolades it gets in virtually every magazine, and security forum its up there with Spybot, in its efficicancy.

So, it seems SpyHunter has a looooong way to go, before the security folks begin to endorse it.

Help!!! i just want a clear answer to your attacks. When are you people (ladies) going to answer the questions.
 Hmmm, maybe i should log in!

I made my point regarding spyhunter and still didnt get the answers.

I'm not defending spyhunter
Whats the use for you to slander any other program without proper arguments? Do you have enoungh money for the lawsuits if the things will go to the court?

I really want normal discussion if its possible.


Jurgita, you make a lot of points that make some sense, if you're talking about programs like SS&D, AA, so on and so forth, which do not use "scare-tactic" promotions to hook customers.
Regardless of how many "baddies" the program may or may not find/remove, I still want to be "informed"into trying the app, not "frightned" into it!
Also, if we were talking about one, maybe two sites which were giving you bad reviews, you may have a point. Obviously, there is more than just "one or two", so I think I will "err" on the side of caution, for now, at least.
Threatining someone with a lawsuit is so commonplace these days, from both the "good" guys and the "bad" guys, that it almost sounds childish to threaten someone with it.
A "normal discussion" usually consists of at least 2 people disussing their opinions on "said" matter. So far, all I've read is a difference of opinions on a certain product available online. If a certain site decides to ban you for your "annoying" opinion, it is certainly within the admins rights to do so, regardless if it's wrong or right. If you are banned, find another site to voice your opinion on. Surely there are other sites that think SPYHUNTER is the best thing out there! I cannot think of one (besides sites that advertise for it, etc), but that is just my opinion.
BTW, you do seem pretty "defensive" for someone who's supposed to be "neutral" on the subject.

I made my point regarding spyhunter and still didnt get the answers.

There is already a lot of information and discussion on the web about spyhunter, which is why I did not repeat what I've already written about it on my sites.  In my opinion Jurgita was not looking for honest discussion because she has a financial interest in it.  

Here are a few links you can check out:

http://www.netrn.net/archives2/000563.html  a review by Eric Howes

http://www.spywareinfo.com/newsletter/archives/0604/2.php

http://antivirus.about.com/b/a/083597.htm

http://www.lavasoftnews.com/theeye/i19/a1.html  This link tells why SpyHunter is now targeted by Ad-aware.  

By Åsa Karlsson - Content Manager

Enigma Software Group Inc. is the company behind the SpyHunter software. They claim that “Our suites are built to address the need of privacy protection and computer security. We empower internet users to take control over their computers against Spyware, parasites, SPAM, and others obtaining your personal information online!” However, what’s not disclosed is the hidden transmission of the Microsoft Windows Product ID to their servers every time their software checks for an update.  They also uniquely identify their users by use of a unique ID for each installation. This unique ID is also sent to their servers undisclosed. This is something we at Lavasoft find highly questionable and unethical.

I don't know about you, but the info in those links is enough to steer me away from using SpyHunter or recommending it to anyone.  

I don't know about you, but the info in those links is enough to steer me away from using SpyHunter or recommending it to anyone.  

Trust me, I was steered away from it as soon as I heard it was phoning home without the user's express acknowledgement and permission! That's all it took for me, so I didn't even bother visiting the website, and unless someone proves otherwise, I never will.

I don't know about you, but the info in those links is enough to steer me away from using SpyHunter or recommending it to anyone.  

Trust me, I was steered away from it as soon as I heard it was phoning home without the user's express acknowledgement and permission! That's all it took for me, so I didn't even bother visiting the website, and unless someone proves otherwise, I never will.

That was me. Sorry about that!

Guest,

No I never did get a reply.  

I spend loads of time on the computer and browse the boards for information on products I need to stay in business.  I have some free programs and some paid programs.  On a periodic basis I support those programs that benefit my efforts.

I'll tell you just what I want.  I want a program that does it's job.  It might not be 100% but that is the reality of evolving software.

I'll tell you what I don't want.  ANYBODY snooping in my files, sending ANY information of my system ANYWHERE or using my data for promotional purposes.  I participate in other boards on different matters and just found out that my e-mail had been harvested and sold.  That's one step away from ID theft.  Now be aware that I am not against legal efforts to combat wire fraud, id theft, pornography or terrorism.  These all have a legal basis in maintaining our freedoms.  I just don't want to get scammed by parasites.

I also respect and admire the dedication of those who provide such professional support on these boards.

A bit off topic (more spam-related), but I have found it useful to pay a little extra and get my own domain with a small hosting account to use for my email.  This way I can setup a catch-all account to point to my email address (catch all sends all email not addressed to a legitimate email address for my domain to a mailbox that I specify).  This means that I can make up new addresses on the fly (example:  cexx@mydomain.com) and I will KNOW who sold my address by looking at the to: box on the spam (or header if need-be).  Also I can terminate any email from that account by just making an alias and dropping them into a small mailbox that will fill quickly and stop working.  I now have close to 50 addresses out there that i use and I don't have to keep track of them.  I actually had spam coming in on a yahoo alias that I made up to join a yahoo group (thanx much yahoo).

Consequently, I am able to pass out an working email address when needed, but not worry about getting spammed.  I can even pass out fake (but working) email addresses to friends and relatives and if they get a spam harvesting trojan, i am more protected than I would have been.

This is not for everyone, but for the geeks among us, it is great.

Like your style,Bringer!

Here's a non-geek,rather crude method of achieving a similar end.

A couple of days ago,I had the invidious task of registering a product online.

As soon as I copped their link to a ta-ta "Bogus Spyware-Installation App",coupled with clickbank nonsense,I thought just for sh**s and giggles,I'd play em at their own game.

I invented a preposterous nomenclature,something along the lines of "Fragistioriahnanito" (dunno,just kept typing ~heh).Naturally,submitting a throw-away,convenience Yahoo address as opposed to my bona fide,primary address.

This provides two advantages:Firstly,at a later date I could set up a filter to discard all mails addressed to Fragistioriahnanito.

Secondly,beyond a shadow of a doubt,I will know exactly who sold those details on,the moment an e-mail arrives addressed to Fragistioriahnanito,from a party other than the original.

From this mess I understood couple of things:
#1. Competitors war is extremely dirty
#2. Spyhunter is a bad software - thats the opinion of several people meanwhile other say it is good. Check this review http://www.anti-spyware-review.toptenreviews.com/.

If the motivation to buy one or another software depends on childish disputes where both sides are financialy interested, whom I should believe? Probably in all such cases I should believe the publisher, no matter what software are the center of discussion.

" Probably in all such cases I should believe the publisher, no matter what software are the center of discussion. " - Hey Guest - that seems like foolish logic to me . Here's a hypothetical scenario for you - Suppose I show up at your house in a van that says on the side - " B.Ware - termite inspection and removal " and then while inspecting your house I sprinkle sawdust in several locations . I then tell you " hey Guest , bad news your house is infested with termites ( which of course is untrue ) but I can exterminate them for you for X amount of dollars " . Would you then believe me and pay me big bucks for a non-existant infestation ????

SpyHunter has actually be de-listed from the Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Programs list.  See the note here:

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm#sh_note

Here is Eric Howe's write up of his recent testing of the newest version of SpyHunter:

http://spywarewarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=5015

His conclusion:

As explained in that note, SpyHunter cannot be recommended as an anti-spyware application, given its poor performance in the testing I have done with it. By the same token, neither can I continue to list SpyHunter as "rogue/suspect," given the changes Enigma has made to its advertising and marketing for SpyHunter.

As always, users are advised to stick to anti-spyware applications with deserved reputations for trustworthy performance:

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm#trustworthy